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CLICK, WHIRRING

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Previously on The Hack...

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Hacking phones at the News Of
The World has been endemic.

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Endemic?

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They've hacked thousands.

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There is an industry
making huge profit

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from invading people's
private lives,

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and Rupert Murdoch's
bullying tabloids

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have explicitly encouraged
it and are buying it.

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Charlotte Harris? Nick
Davies of The Guardian.

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I can't talk to you
about specific cases,

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but I can tell you there
is so much more to come.

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ALAN: Show me what you have.

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A printout of an email
proving a payment of £7,000

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to Mulcaire for a
story on Gordon Taylor.

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And the police have access
to all of this and more.

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In my opinion, what I have seen

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is a most careful investigation
by very experienced detectives.

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'And since no additional
evidence has come to light,

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'I can see no reason
to reopen the inquiry.'

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Keir Starmer's
conducting a review.

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And now the CMS Select Committee
want to see us urgently.

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Are you reading
the statement? No.

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But I do have things to say.

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DIALLING, THUNDER RUMBLING

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AUTOMATED VOICE: 'Welcome
to your voicemail.

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'You have three new messages.

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'To listen to your
messages, press one.'

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BEEP

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'Papa here. Just wondering
when you're over.

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'Oh, er, the kitchen tap
seems to be fixed now,

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'which is good. So, er...' BEEP

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AUTOMATED VOICE: 'Message
deleted. Next message.'

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'Nick, it's Sheridan.

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'Erm, just to say I got a
call from the bank today.

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'They said it's in relation
to the remortgage, but...'

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SHE SIGHS '..I felt like
someone was fishing.'

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BEEP 'Message deleted.

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'Next message.'

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'Nick, we're putting together
a legal response for Alan.

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'But we need to speak to you
about the Select Committee...'

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VOICE FADES INTO FEEDBACK

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THUNDER RUMBLING

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Oh, God.

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Don't you dare.

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Has Alan rung again? Possibly.

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Possibly?

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Could be the school telling
me my son's broken his leg.

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Or Rebekah Brooks
declaring surrender.

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Or it could be Alan
asking where I am

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and whether David
Leigh is with me.

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I didn't answer. I didn't
want to lie to him.

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Perhaps he'll leave a voicemail.

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Why are we here? Good question.

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Thank you for joining
us, gentlemen.

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Now, we have a lot of questions,

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so try and keep opening
statements short.

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I'd like to keep this whole
experience quite short, if I may.

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ATTENDEES CHUCKLING
Erm, but I do have...

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There is quite a
lot for me to say.

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I'd like to start by showing you,
first of all, copies of an email.

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With respect, Mr Davies,

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er, we have quite a few
questions for you. I understand.

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But I think your questions
will be given context...

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Let's open with a question
from... Mr Whittingdale.

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Do you want the evidence or not?

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I would like to read it.

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Yup? OK.

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There you go. OK.

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This is an email sent
for Neville Thurlbeck,

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Chief Reporter for
News Of The World.

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A document the police
have had for some time.

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A document that contains
transcripts of hacked voice mails.

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I hope you'll agree this
backs up our claims.

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But what's more unsettling
is that Scotland Yard

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have never arrested or
interviewed Neville Thurlbeck.

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My chief concern is...

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Mr Davies, this is
all very dramatic,

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but if we can get back
to the matter in hand.

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Mr Whittingdale,
I'm very worried

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that News International journalists
have been breaking the law.

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And equally worried
that Scotland Yard

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do not appear to have
investigated them.

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ATTENDEES MURMURING

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Mr Davies, this is
all very dramatic.

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It's amazing what you can do with
kids' glue and some black paper.

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You... You got your
kids to redact a...

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They enjoyed it.
They like craft.

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Good revolutionaries.

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BOTH CHUCKLE Yeah.

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What was that letter Che
Guevara wrote to his kids?

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PHONE BUZZES

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Alan.

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Hi.

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No, it was fine.

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I think we got away with it.

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What are they saying?

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Yes.

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HE INHALES SHARPLY

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Can you just... Yes.

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Right. Thanks for
letting me know.

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David Leppard, The Sunday Times.

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Why is Leppard phoning you?

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Er, it wasn't him.

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Leppard's spreading a story

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that I hired John Ford
to hack voicemail.

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It's apparently all
over Parliament.

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John Ford, the blagger?
You wouldn't use John Ford.

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They're saying it's in relation
to our investigation of Monsanto.

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I did use an intelligence firm.

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Limosis.

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It's possible they...
subcontracted to John Ford.

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Well, The Guardian isn't
in trouble any more.

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I am.

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DOG BARKING

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John Ford.

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John Ford had had his hand

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in and out of Alastair
Campbell's trash for years.

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But his real talent
was for blagging.

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An ex-actor with style. He did
all sorts to get all sorts.

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Gordon Brown's bank
records, for one.

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And Alan may have
hired him, which...

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Well... DAVID SNORING

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...the newspaper industry loves
a bit of hypocrisy to expose.

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BIRDSONG

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Morning.

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Not the face you were
hoping to wake up to?

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HE GRUNTS

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You know, I think the
time has come to admit

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that John Ford isn't home.

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David Leigh, investigations
editor at The Guardian.

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Also, Alan's brother-in-law.

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The Sunday Times have
got him well hid.

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NICK GROANS, SNIFFS

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I think we can give
him another day.

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Perhaps we can get hold
of Alan's paper trail?

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Get inside the
intelligence firm.

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Start again.

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It'll take too long,
they'll publish before...

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Then Alan will take a hit,
and we hope he survives it.

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But sitting here, Nick...

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...it's getting us nowhere.

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This is not all my fault.

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Murdoch's an eel.

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He's entirely relentless.

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I'm not picking a
fight with Murdoch.

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No.

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You're picking a fight
with our entire industry.

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PHONE BUZZES Don't answer it.

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No, do. Do. Don't let
them leave a voicemail.

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NOTIFICATION CHIMES
It's an email. Oh.

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A statement from the
Crown Prosecution Service.

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The CPS says,

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"It's not appropriate to reopen
the case or revisit the decision."

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HE GROANS

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They're not backing us.

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What was it that John
Yates said about the case?

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Something about a
small number of, er...

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Of hacks, yeah.

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Our inquiries showed that
they only used the tactic

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against a far smaller
number of individuals.

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Page two.

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"Searched Mulcaire's office,
seized material which indicated

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"some non-royal cases
had been hacked." Yup.

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"The DPP states..."

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"Only a select sample of
these could be taken to court"

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"because any other approach might
have made the case unmanageable."

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Unmanageable? That
suggests a lot of hacking.

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By more than one reporter. Yeah.

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Almost an admission of such.

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I'll write, you call.

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Got it. PHONE BEEPING

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That means you need
to leave the car.

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Got it. Yeah.

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Hi, this is Nick
Davies of The Guardian.

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MAN: 'Hi there.'

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I need to speak to
somebody at the CPS

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about the Glenn
Mulcaire prosecution.

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'Er, yes, yes. But
specifically, how can I help?'

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Specifically?

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I want to know what
the police passed up

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and you declined to prosecute
because any other approach

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would have been,
quote, "unmanageable".

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'OK...' I have information,

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particularly an email
that I want to discuss.

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'Er, yes, sir. Erm,
can I put you on hold?'

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Yes, I will hold.

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HOLD MUSIC: ♪ Never
gonna give you up

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♪ Never gonna let you down... ♪
Really?

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The plot thickens.

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The Neville email
was never flagged.

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The Met never flagged
it to the CPS.

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Why not?

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I can't give this up.
It's too important.

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No, I know.

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But I won't let it hurt Alan.

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I'm not entirely sure you
can make that promise.

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BELL TOLLING

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Hi. Hi.

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Made you a sandwich. Oh, cheers.

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You look rough.

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Yeah, and you look beautiful (!)

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I'm not sleeping.

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No, neither am I.

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Daniel Morgan.

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Anything I can...

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I can't tell you
anything. You know that.

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Is there something
to tell... No.

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Christ. Salmon and
cream cheese, eh?

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Scottish salmon. DAVE CHUCKLES

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And I need some
non-Daniel Morgan advice.

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You're saying poncy
sandwiches don't come free?

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Why would the Met not flag evidence
to the Crown Prosecution Service?

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CPS don't get everything.

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And everything it does get has to
pass the relevance test, right?

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Correct. OK.

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So, is this relevant?

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They're transcripts
for Neville Thurlbeck,

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Chief Reporter at
the News of the Word.

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And they didn't get shown this?

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They put it through
as "unused material".

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Shit.

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Tell me. What is
happening in the Met?

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Well, there's obviously
a lot I can't tell you.

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But what I can say...

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is that ever since
Stephen Lawrence,

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the Met have made
it their job to...

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Well, Dick Fedorcio,
director of communications.

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Yeah, I've met him.

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He currently sits on the
Met's senior management team.

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Our comms chief, not
a police officer.

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And he has direct impact
on operational decisions.

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Good press matters that much?

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These meetings are dominated

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by how to get the cases
that are going well

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on the front of the tabloids

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and the cases that are not
going so well off them.

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By order of the Commissioner,

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Dick will wine and dine
the crime journalists.

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And guess who he meets the most?

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News Of The World and The Sun.

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But not flagging
this to the CPS?

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It's bad. Very bad. Look,
will you stop doing that?

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You're making me jumpy. I
think I'm being watched.

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What, you got anything to
hide? You, for one thing.

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Hey, I'm just meeting a
pal for a poncy sandwich.

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Glenn Mulcaire did a
minimum 20,000 hours' work

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for the News Of The World.

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That's on record. It's an
industrial level of work.

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Which means he worked for far more
journalists than Clive Goodman.

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So, Neville Thurlbeck appears
to be one other, but...

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was he feeding all of them?

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Nick, just be careful, OK?

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See, these people...

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are not to be fucked with.

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PHONE RINGING

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FRIDGE DOOR OPENS, CLOSES

258
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There you go, boys.

259
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Charlotte Harris.

260
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'Nick Davies.'

261
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Right.

262
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You sound delighted
to hear from me.

263
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'Delighted and not surprised.

264
00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,877
'How'd you get this
number? Did you blag it?'

265
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Your office gave it to me.

266
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I can be very polite and
surprisingly charming.

267
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If you're calling about
the CPS enhancement,

268
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I'm as pissed off as you are,
but there's nothing I can do.

269
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Look, the CPS have a
file on Glenn Mulcaire.

270
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'You must know someone...'

271
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Nick, I don't work for
you, and I've got to go.

272
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Good luck, and goodbye.

273
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Er, right. OK.

274
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Glenn Mulcaire.

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Chief phone hacker for
the News Of The World.

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Given six months' jail time
for the Clive Goodman case,

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but now he's out and about.

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And sniffing about.

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DOOR OPENS

280
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Mr Mulcaire? Nick Davies.

281
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I saw you.

282
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Maroon Saab by the park.

283
00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,877
Think I'd do what I do
without being good at it?

284
00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,877
I don't know if you've been
reading my pieces in The Guardian?

285
00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,877
You taping this?

286
00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,877
No. No, I wouldn't do that
without your consent, Mr Mulcaire.

287
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It's Glenn.

288
00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:01,877
So, who else are you
talking to, Nick?

289
00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,917
Got anyone good in the police?

290
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,877
Who's your snout at the screws?

291
00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,877
Who are YOU still
talking to at that paper?

292
00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960
CHUCKLES SOFTLY You're funny.

293
00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,878
Why are you here?

294
00:14:10,961 --> 00:14:13,397
Did you ever work for
Neville Thurlbeck?

295
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,877
Oh, right. Let me
save you some time...

296
00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,877
I have an email written to you,

297
00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,877
er, which is marked for Neville

298
00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,877
from Ross Hindley, and it
contains transcripts of 35...

299
00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,877
Everything I did
came out in court.

300
00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,877
Anything more than
that, I didn't do.

301
00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,877
They cut you off, right?

302
00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,960
You do know you're still
open to future charges?

303
00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,877
Get out now, before the
whole thing collapses on you.

304
00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,877
You know I've got
five kids in there.

305
00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,877
And you come to my house
and what, threaten me?

306
00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,878
I wasn't threatening you.

307
00:14:40,961 --> 00:14:42,877
You any idea what
you're dealing with?

308
00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,557
GLENN CHUCKLES

309
00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,877
Look, you do yours,
and I'll do mine, yeah?

310
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I wasn't threatening you.

311
00:14:48,961 --> 00:14:51,960
I was just telling
you they won't help.

312
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,557
'OK, so, there is a
lie happening here.'

313
00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,877
The CPS memo shows this stretches
right inside News International.

314
00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,877
Glenn Mulcaire
essentially confirmed it.

315
00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,878
He didn't confirm it.

316
00:15:04,961 --> 00:15:06,877
I'm digging in. In the
meantime, I'd like to publish

317
00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,877
"Are Scotland Yard Scared
of Rupert Murdoch?"

318
00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,237
Saying what?

319
00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,077
Saying they...

320
00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,877
buried evidence which should
have been passed to the CPS.

321
00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,877
Poking the bear. Well, that's
what we do now. Poke the bear.

322
00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,877
No. Can we just take a minute?
What's your angle here?

323
00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,397
Well, I have two
lines of attack.

324
00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,877
One, to reveal who was
on their shopping list.

325
00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,878
I need names. Much more of them.

326
00:15:25,961 --> 00:15:28,877
There were far more than, than...
three royals, five non-royals.

327
00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,877
I want to know who signed
off on these names.

328
00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,237
I need proof it was
more than Clive Goodman.

329
00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,877
How will you get that?

330
00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,877
My second line of attack is
to get inside the police...

331
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,877
A mistake. ..to discover
why this evidence

332
00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,878
wasn't flagged to the CPS.

333
00:15:39,961 --> 00:15:42,877
What criminality was
ignored, and why?

334
00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,237
John Yates called me and said we've
got the wrong end of the stick

335
00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,877
with the police in all this.

336
00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,878
WE'RE on the wrong
end of the stick? Yes!

337
00:15:47,961 --> 00:15:49,877
Do you not think
that's possible?

338
00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,877
Look, are we sure
this is sensible?

339
00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,877
We're risking our
relationship with the police

340
00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,717
and with good journalists
from other newspapers.

341
00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,877
Why? To root out
a few bad apples.

342
00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,877
It doesn't seem... Bad
apples, wrong sticks?!

343
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,878
I agree with Nick.

344
00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:04,877
The Neville email
is extraordinary,

345
00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,557
and the fact that they
didn't flag it to the CPS

346
00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,877
more extraordinary still.

347
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,877
A chief reporter seems to
have been involved in hacking.

348
00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,877
That didn't warrant
an investigation?

349
00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,077
There are potentially
thousands of victims,

350
00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,877
but the Met is only
claiming a small number.

351
00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,877
What do you think, Gill?

352
00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,877
For a public interest defence,

353
00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,877
you need to be absolutely
sure of your facts.

354
00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,877
Right now, this
feels a bit small.

355
00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,878
I have to say I agree.

356
00:16:26,961 --> 00:16:30,557
Let's pause on the
Scotland Yard article.

357
00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:31,877
Let's let the PCC...

358
00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,557
Press Complaints Commission.

359
00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,877
The PCC will settle
all of this down.

360
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,960
They'll back us, and
it will all be easier.

361
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,877
What else have we got?

362
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,557
Something other than

363
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,877
"When's Gordon Brown going to
call this next damn election?"

364
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,877
DAVID: 'Listen, Alan's
nervous, but he's right.'

365
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,877
You need more, but the angles
you're pursuing, also right.

366
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,397
Who says the PCC
are gonna back us?

367
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,877
What, you don't think they will?

368
00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,717
Why is Alan waiting for them?
You know we have to keep pushing.

369
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,077
It's kill or be
killed. We can't wait.

370
00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,877
Yes. The Sunday Times are
getting ready to publish

371
00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,877
on John Ford and Alan.

372
00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,877
Right. Mm.

373
00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,877
Have Limosis come
back with any more?

374
00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,877
Nothing that gives
us categorical proof.

375
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,877
He's in trouble.

376
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,877
Just give him time.

377
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,877
They're accusing him
of being a hypocrite.

378
00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,960
We have hypocrisy on hypocrisy.
The world's gone mad.

379
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,960
Look, Nick...

380
00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,960
Nick.

381
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,877
No, Nick. Nick, Nick.

382
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,877
Whatever you're doing,
Nick, stop. NICK DIALLING

383
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,877
LINE RINGING OUT

384
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,878
WOMAN: 'Hello?'

385
00:17:41,961 --> 00:17:43,877
Hi, this is Nick
Davies of The Guardian.

386
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,877
Can I have The Sunday Times
managing editor's office?

387
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,000
WHISPERS: I mean it, Nick.

388
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,237
WOMAN 2: 'Hello?'

389
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,877
Hi, this is Nick
Davies of The Guardian.

390
00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,717
'Right.' Yeah.

391
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,877
I'd like confirmation,
on the record,

392
00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,877
of, A, how many times you've
made payments to John Ford

393
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,877
to blag into
confidential databases,

394
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,877
and B, the period of time over
which these payments have been made.

395
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,877
'OK. We'll need to investigate.'

396
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,877
Of course. You'll need
to do some investigation.

397
00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,878
You just call me back

398
00:18:11,961 --> 00:18:14,877
whenever you've had the
chance to do so, yeah?

399
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,397
'Right.'

400
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,320
Great, thanks. Bye-bye.

401
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,320
GLENN SIGHS Hi.

402
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,878
Peace offering.

403
00:18:31,961 --> 00:18:33,160
I don't drink.

404
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,877
Can I get you something softer?

405
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,877
A Mars bar? GLENN CHUCKLES

406
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,877
Yeah, sure, I'd tell you
everything I know for a Mars bar.

407
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,877
I wasn't... I'm not
threatening you.

408
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,917
No, no. You're Willy Wonka.
Chocolate for everyone.

409
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,877
NICK LAUGHS

410
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,877
I want to know your
side of the story.

411
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,877
How'd you find me here?

412
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,877
You're on the club's website.

413
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,077
You won the Big Break competition
two years ago. Congratulations.

414
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,877
In court transcripts, it
says that you worked for

415
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,877
News Of The World
for 70 hours a week.

416
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:01,878
Oh, here we go.

417
00:19:01,961 --> 00:19:04,877
Over six years, that's
over 20,000 hours.

418
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,877
What were you doing for
them during that time?

419
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,877
I'm a PI. I did PI work.

420
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,878
For who?

421
00:19:10,961 --> 00:19:12,877
Because it wasn't
just Clive Goodman.

422
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,877
Oh, oh, oh. Naming names?
That's two Mars bars, at least.

423
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,077
I know you aren't to
blame for all this.

424
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,877
Your name is in the mud already.

425
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,877
If you explain exactly what you
did and who you were working for...

426
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,877
Even if I wanted
to tell you who,

427
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,877
the police have got all my
notebooks and my computers

428
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,717
and everything, so...

429
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,877
Notebooks? What's in those?

430
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,877
GLENN SIGHS

431
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,917
Fuck you. It was in the CPS report
that your office was searched

432
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,877
and material seized, but I
didn't know there were notebooks.

433
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,717
You find me a PI who
doesn't write things down.

434
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,960
Well, what's in them?
Lines of inquiry?

435
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,877
Names of the people
you were hacking -

436
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,877
sorry, doing PI work on?

437
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,960
And the names of who
you were doing them for?

438
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,877
Names of the News Of
The World journalists.

439
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,877
Go away.

440
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,877
And take your cheap
beer with you.

441
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,877
I do not think...

442
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,877
genuinely, really do not think that
you should be the fall guy here.

443
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,877
Yeah, well, be careful that
you're not a fall guy too.

444
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,878
Eh, champ?

445
00:20:08,961 --> 00:20:11,877
Now, please fuck off.

446
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,717
Let me do the one
thing I still enjoy.

447
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,960
All right.

448
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,320
Good luck.

449
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,877
'Mulcaire's given me an idea.'

450
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,877
CHARLOTTE: 'Good. All he's
given me is a headache.'

451
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,877
We need to get inside
the court system,

452
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,877
we need to get more
information released.

453
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,878
'Sorry?'

454
00:20:32,961 --> 00:20:34,877
They won't release
documents to me.

455
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,877
They will if they're
compelled to by a judge.

456
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,877
'Hang on. Can you calm down?'

457
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,557
What?

458
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,877
Children.

459
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,877
You are aware it's the weekend?

460
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,557
Oh, right. The police
have Mulcaire's notebooks.

461
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,877
If we can get them into the
public eye, we'll see...

462
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,877
who hired who, how high this
goes, who was being hacked.

463
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,877
'I need... We need
compelled evidence.'

464
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,878
KIDS CHATTERING

465
00:20:54,961 --> 00:20:56,877
You swapped between
"I need" and "We need"

466
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,877
in the same sentence,
do you know that?

467
00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,878
I know you've other clients.

468
00:20:59,961 --> 00:21:01,877
I know you're building
several cases here.

469
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,877
'Help me, it'll help you too.'

470
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,717
KIDS LAUGHING

471
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,877
We don't work together, Nick.

472
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,877
Well, of course we don't. But
we do have the same cause.

473
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,877
'I can't get inside
the notebooks

474
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,877
'because I'm not mentioned
in the notebooks.'

475
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,877
But you find a client
who IS in there,

476
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,917
who has the bravery to take
it to court, suddenly...

477
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,077
you can see how
much this opens up.

478
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,877
Yeah.

479
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,717
SHE INHALES SHARPLY

480
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,960
Let me, erm...

481
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,397
There might be somebody
you could talk to.

482
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,877
Well, let me know as
soon as you can, OK?

483
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,877
Yes, I heard you. I'm on it.

484
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,640
OK, thanks. Bye.

485
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,237
There is an art to fear.

486
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,917
An art the News Of
The World and The Sun

487
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,877
and all those nasty buggers
mastered a long time ago.

488
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,877
They call it monstering.

489
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,077
Grievous emotional harm.

490
00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,877
The kind of injury from which
some victims simply never recover.

491
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,877
A monstering is intended to
destroy the victim involved,

492
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,877
and it is intended to make sure

493
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,877
that no-one stands up
to them ever again.

494
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,877
Take former Labour government
minister Clare Short.

495
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,877
She criticised The Sun's use of
topless women to sell the paper.

496
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,877
She found herself
denounced to millions as...

497
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,077
Killjoy Clare.

498
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,877
Short on looks...

499
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,877
Short on brains.

500
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,717
The paper offered
free car stickers,

501
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,877
sent page three models
round to her home,

502
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,877
ran a beauty contest
to ask their readers

503
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,877
whether they would prefer to see
her face or the back of a bus.

504
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,160
PHOTOGRAPHERS CLAMOURING

505
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,877
The News Of The World
ran two bogus stories

506
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,397
suggesting Clare was
involved in pornography,

507
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,877
tried to buy old photographs of her
as a 20-year-old in a nightdress

508
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,878
and published a smear story

509
00:22:47,961 --> 00:22:50,877
which attempted to link her
to a West Indian gangster.

510
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,877
GUN COCKS, FIRES

511
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,237
They monstered her.

512
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,960
It was horrible.

513
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,077
In his diary, Alastair Campbell
recalls the ferocious monstering

514
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,877
which was given to the
then Transport Secretary,

515
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,917
Stephen Byers, in 2002.

516
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,917
It continued even
after he resigned.

517
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,877
It's like they get a corpse,

518
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,877
but then they're disappointed
there's nothing left to kill.

519
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,877
So they try and kill
the dead body too.

520
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,878
So standing up to it,

521
00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:18,000
standing up to that
paper takes guts.

522
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,877
And possibly a little insanity.

523
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,960
Max, it's an honour.

524
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,000
An honour? Is that right?

525
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,878
Max Clifford.

526
00:23:29,961 --> 00:23:31,877
King of the kiss and tell.

527
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,877
His job was bargaining
with the tabloids

528
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,877
to get the best headlines
and the most money

529
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,877
for his string of clients.

530
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,960
Didn't need to be true,
just needed to sell.

531
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,877
Do you remember "Freddie
Starr Ate My Hamster"?

532
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,960
He wrote that headline.

533
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,960
But maybe it takes a tabloid
man to kill the tabloids.

534
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,877
I'm sincerely grateful
for you being here.

535
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,877
Charlotte explained
your problem.

536
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,557
I have a feeling that our
interests might align on this.

537
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,877
They hacked me.
That's on record.

538
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,877
And I want to find out
who signed off on it.

539
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,877
Well, that's
extremely important.

540
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,917
We HOPE it will be important.

541
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,877
We've had our first disclosure. We
made an application to the courts.

542
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,960
This is everything
Mulcaire wrote about Max.

543
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,320
Hm.

544
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,877
They've redacted everything.

545
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,397
In particular, anything
which might identify

546
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,877
the News Of The
World journalists

547
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,877
who might have
commissioned the hacking.

548
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,877
I'm going back to
court. We'll get more.

549
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,877
Question. When they disclosed
Gordon Taylor's paperwork,

550
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,878
did they redact anything?

551
00:24:33,961 --> 00:24:35,877
No. Why start now?

552
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,877
Because it implicates them.

553
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,960
So did Gordon Taylor.

554
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,877
They're... They're working out how
to make themselves impenetrable.

555
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,960
They're watching us.

556
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,878
You do know what
you're taking on?

557
00:24:48,961 --> 00:24:50,917
Do you know who
you're talking to?

558
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,877
I believe Rebekah
Brooks is your friend.

559
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,077
Didn't you help her when
she was accused of assault?

560
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,877
I help her. But
not in that case.

561
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,960
I have my loyalties,
and I have beliefs.

562
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,877
I mean, I know Andy Coulson.

563
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,917
But him, sitting next
to the Prime Minister,

564
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,877
that's wrong in every way.

565
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,877
All the same...

566
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,237
I've spent my entire
life inside that machine.

567
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,960
I know what their
guns smell like.

568
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,878
Do you?

569
00:25:17,961 --> 00:25:19,960
We need you, Max.

570
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,877
Christ. If I'm your best hope...

571
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,000
you're fucked.

572
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,800
SHERIDAN: You look tired.

573
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,878
Are you sleeping?

574
00:25:40,961 --> 00:25:42,877
Oh, I've definitely
slept better.

575
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960
That, erm, mortgage application,
did that come back at all?

576
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,000
No, but there was
something else. Erm...

577
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,877
So, when I was picking the kids
up, er, someone I didn't recognise

578
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,917
started talking to me
about a Maggie someone.

579
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,640
Now, that's an ex
of yours, right?

580
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,960
Oh, God. Did they see the kids?

581
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,877
Yeah, I mean, they
kept it casual, but...

582
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Shit!

583
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,877
Maggie? God, they're
desperately digging.

584
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,877
I didn't like it, Nick.

585
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,917
School gate.

586
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,877
KNOCK AT DOOR

587
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,717
Well, look, they
approach you again,

588
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,877
you take out your phone,
you take a photograph.

589
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,878
OK.

590
00:26:20,961 --> 00:26:23,917
And promise me it's not
gonna get worse than this.

591
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,877
Well, they'd be really stupid
to do anything I could print.

592
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,800
But I'm sorry. I'm really sorry.

593
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,877
Will they find any skeletons?

594
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,397
If they look properly,
they'll find a cemetery.

595
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,877
KNOCKING This is a delivery.

596
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,877
You stay where you are.
No, no, no. Let me go.

597
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,877
All right. We'll...
Let's talk later.

598
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,077
Bye, kids.

599
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,877
Bye. KIDS: Bye.

600
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:45,878
DOOR OPENS Alan!

601
00:26:45,961 --> 00:26:47,877
Sheridan. Oh...

602
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,717
How are you?

603
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,877
I'm good. You all right? Mm.

604
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,877
I am, erm... I'll
leave you to it.

605
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,960
Hello. You coming in?

606
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,878
No.

607
00:26:57,961 --> 00:26:59,877
I've got food on.
There's enough.

608
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,877
I have some, er,
good news, actually.

609
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,877
Max Clifford, of all people,
taking them to court.

610
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960
John Ford thing's gone away.

611
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Great.

612
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,960
You think I don't know how?

613
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,237
Let's talk inside.

614
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,397
Nick Davies,

615
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,877
always guaranteed to bring a
flamethrower to a knife fight.

616
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,077
It was the best thing to do.

617
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,877
You didn't think to
consult me beforehand?

618
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,237
It's gone away, Alan.

619
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,877
Because you, erm...

620
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,237
What's the right
word to use here?

621
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,877
...provoked them.

622
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,877
In Flat Earth News, I
found substantial proof

623
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,877
that The Sunday Times
were using John Ford.

624
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,877
That doesn't matter.
Of course it matters.

625
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,877
They were wrong
to use John Ford.

626
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,877
I was wrong if I did,
inadvertently, use John Ford.

627
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,877
And you were wrong
to get involved

628
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,960
in a way that wasn't asked
for and wasn't warranted.

629
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,877
I was trying to broker
peace with John Witherow,

630
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,877
and you could have
destabilised that,

631
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,877
and starting a fight with
the News Of The World

632
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,878
and The Sunday Times...

633
00:27:55,961 --> 00:27:57,877
I knew it would work. Are
you denying that it did?

634
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,077
No. But if you
knew it would work,

635
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,877
why didn't you make that
call at the very beginning?

636
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,237
Why did you try and find him?

637
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,557
Spend a couple of nights
in a car with David Leigh?

638
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,160
Jesus Christ, Nick,
you're such a...

639
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,717
...hazard.

640
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,877
I was just following what was...

641
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,877
Alan, come on.
Look... HE CHUCKLES

642
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,878
We need to keep pushing.

643
00:28:16,961 --> 00:28:19,877
They will push back. We
need to keep pushing.

644
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,877
I get it, you're exhausted.

645
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,877
You think you're taking
on everyone by yourself,

646
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,557
but it's not just you in
the box on this one, Nick.

647
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,960
It's all of us.

648
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,960
And I can't have a hand on
your leg the whole time.

649
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,397
CAR DOOR CLOSES

650
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,917
ENGINE STARTS

651
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,960
HE SIGHS

652
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,960
HE SIGHS

653
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,960
NICK'S MOTHER:
'What have you done?

654
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960
'You stupid child.'

655
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,960
PHONE BUZZES

656
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,878
Yeah?

657
00:29:10,961 --> 00:29:13,237
DAVID: 'I guessed
you'd be up.' Yup.

658
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,877
'The Press Complaints
Commission have come back.'

659
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,878
Not good news?

660
00:29:17,961 --> 00:29:20,877
' "The PCC has seen
no new evidence

661
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,557
' "to suggest that the practice
of the phone messaging tapping

662
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,877
' "was undertaken by other
beyond Goodman and Mulcaire

663
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,877
' "or evidence that the
News Of The World executives

664
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,877
' "knew about Goodman or
Mulcaire's activities."

665
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,717
'You were right, Alan was wrong.
They haven't backed us either.'

666
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,877
Yeah, OK.

667
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,877
'Sorry, Nick.' Mm.
Thanks for calling.

668
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,160
Bye. 'Bye.'

669
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,960
PHONE BUZZES

670
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,877
AUTOMATED VOICE: 'Please
enter your four-digit PIN.'

671
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,557
DIALLING

672
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,717
AUTOMATED VOICE: 'Welcome
to your voicemail.

673
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,877
'You have four new messages.

674
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,557
'To listen to your
messages, press one.'

675
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,237
BEEP 'Er, this is Carl.

676
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,877
'I'm here to read your meter.
You said you'd be here...'

677
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,397
BEEP 'Message deleted.
Next message.'

678
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,877
'Hey, it's Charlotte.

679
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,877
'We've entered the
amended claim for Max,

680
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,717
'and we're waiting
for the courts...'

681
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,877
BEEP 'Message deleted.
Next message.'

682
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,877
SHERIDAN: 'Nick, hi,
it's me. Er, another one.

683
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,877
'Not sure if it's anything,
but a girl you used to...'

684
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,877
'Message deleted.

685
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,000
'Next message.'

686
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,877
FEEDBACK, ELECTRICAL WHIRRING

687
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,877
HE TAKES DEEP BREATH

688
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,480
HE CLEARS THROAT

689
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,320
KNOCKING

690
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,960
Hello, Dad.

691
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,397
You're looking thinner.

692
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,960
You look good.

693
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Still a charmer.

694
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,960
CROCKERY RATTLING

695
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,877
I should be helping
with that, Papa.

696
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,917
Ha. Should, would, could.

697
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,877
No, you can't.

698
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,877
Anyway, these are
the good hours.

699
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,877
What's that mean?

700
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,877
Hips hurt, knees hurt,
back hurts till 11:00am,

701
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,877
and then again from 3:00pm.

702
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,877
But 11:00 till
3:00... Is a holiday.

703
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Never get old.

704
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,877
So, you've got four good
hours, and you sleep for...

705
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,878
presumably eight...

706
00:31:47,961 --> 00:31:50,877
Yes, well, don't turn
it into a maths puzzle.

707
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,077
I can still do the crossword,
however my hips feel.

708
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,960
That's all that counts.

709
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,040
The crossword in The Times.

710
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,877
Should I stop buying The Times?

711
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Yes.

712
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,320
I won't. I know.

713
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,877
I've, erm, been
reading your pieces.

714
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,917
You even managed to watch
the Select Committee.

715
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,877
I have no idea how
you even did that.

716
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,877
I'm not a dinosaur!

717
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,160
I can use the Internet.

718
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,877
So, is it all as
hard as it looks?

719
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,960
It's fine.

720
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,397
You've got nothing to prove.

721
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,960
I'm not trying to
prove anything.

722
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,717
Your mother would have liked it.

723
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,877
All this trouble.

724
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,960
She always liked trouble.

725
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,877
Just be safe with yourself.

726
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,960
That's all I ask.

727
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960
Just be safe.

728
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,917
Thank you.

729
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,960
Fifth floor, yeah?

730
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,960
TICKING

731
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,960
DOOR CREAKS

732
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,877
Mr Davies. Assistant
Commissioner.

733
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,000
Thank you for coming
in. Thank you.

734
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,877
Dick said we should meet. Yes.

735
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Dick Fedorcio was kind enough
to arrange the meeting.

736
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,877
I thought it useful so we
could smooth matters over,

737
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,878
so we can help each other.

738
00:33:52,961 --> 00:33:54,877
Mm. I don't think I can help.

739
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,237
No, no, no. I'm
here to help you.

740
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,397
A story that makes
Scotland Yard look good.

741
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,397
I just need you to confirm
that in order to be able to,

742
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,877
er, inform all the potential
victims of the hacking,

743
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,877
that you've set
up a new database

744
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,877
containing all the evidence
which you gathered in 2006.

745
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,878
Have we?

746
00:34:11,961 --> 00:34:13,877
Er...

747
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,877
Well, I've very good word

748
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,877
from lawyers who've been
in touch with the Yard,

749
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,877
saying that you're taking
the need to organise

750
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,640
the evidence which perhaps wasn't
organised quite so well seriously.

751
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,877
All right, fine.

752
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,917
Maybe we have
organised a database.

753
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,877
I will give you that.

754
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,397
But in return,

755
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,877
maybe you can cease and desist
with briefing everyone against me.

756
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,877
We have nothing to do
with News International,

757
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,878
and you bloody well know it.

758
00:34:38,961 --> 00:34:41,237
Assistant Commissioner,
my interest...

759
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,877
Do you think I don't
know what you're doing?

760
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,717
When I appeared in front of
that damn Select Committee,

761
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,877
I could see, I could see in
the eye movements of the MPs

762
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,480
that you'd briefed
all but one of them.

763
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,877
I'm sorry, eye movements?

764
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,877
Mm-hm. I'm a clever
cop, Mr Davies.

765
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,960
Right.

766
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,877
Why didn't you pass the CPS
the email to Neville Thurlbeck

767
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,917
which clearly implicated
him in the hacking scandal?

768
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,237
Was it because, well,
as the CPS have said,

769
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,877
that you could only use a sample

770
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,877
because the evidence was
unmanageable otherwise?

771
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,877
No. The CPS were clear.

772
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,877
With the Regulation of
Investigatory Powers Act,

773
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,877
it is only a crime

774
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,877
if the intended victim had
not already heard the message.

775
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,877
No-one interprets RIPA
like that except you.

776
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,877
All I want to know is
the extent of this.

777
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,877
Can you tell me how many
victims of phone hacking

778
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,878
you've been able to identify?

779
00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:30,397
Mr Davies,

780
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,917
the Crown Prosecution Service
do not agree with you.

781
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,237
The Press Complaints Commission
do not agree with you.

782
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,960
And the Metropolitan Police
certainly do not agree with you.

783
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,877
There's dog-minded, and
then there's just dog.

784
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,877
This left-wing attack on
Murdoch by The Guardian...

785
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,397
If you can't give
me a bald number,

786
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,877
just tell me how many victims
were in Mulcaire's notebooks.

787
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
HE LAUGHS

788
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,960
I have never fallen out
with a journalist before.

789
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,877
Well, you finally have done so.

790
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,320
Congratulations.

791
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,960
DOOR OPENS

792
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,960
HE SIGHS

793
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,877
CHATTER

794
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000
This is Kate Saunders from
The Guardian newspaper...

795
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,960
PHONE RINGING

796
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Hi.

797
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Look, I brought you a gift.

798
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,160
It's an "I'm not sorry" gift.

799
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,320
Gonna look?

800
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,877
But I'm also, erm...

801
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,480
I'm stuck, so...

802
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,077
If calling it an "I'm not
sorry" gift is offensive,

803
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,877
call it a "damn" gift.

804
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,877
As in, "Damn, I'm
stuck. Please help".

805
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,237
Why are you stuck?

806
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,877
They are... Everybody is...

807
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,960
HE SIGHS

808
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,877
No-one is telling me
the truth, and I...

809
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,877
Basic thing about you, Nick,

810
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,877
is that each time you
find someone lying to you,

811
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,878
you are utterly amazed,

812
00:37:17,961 --> 00:37:20,877
even though you've devoted most
of your life to uncovering liars.

813
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,960
I wear the coat of a cynic
only to conceal the heart...

814
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,877
...of an agitated otter.

815
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,877
They, erm...
Talking of cynicism,

816
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,877
they're now spreading a rumour
that I have a love child.

817
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,960
A love child.

818
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,080
They're coming after me too.

819
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,397
Sheridan's been farming
all sorts of calls.

820
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,077
But they're not
telling lies about you.

821
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,877
Why are the only lies
about me? Don't know.

822
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,877
Because they think attacking me

823
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,877
is the easiest way
of shutting you up?

824
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960
Clever, really.

825
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,077
They know I need you.

826
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,960
How curious you choose now
to say something so kind.

827
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,878
Oh, God.

828
00:38:02,961 --> 00:38:04,917
I'm your Sancho Panza.

829
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,877
HE LAUGHS

830
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
I always thought I was yours.

831
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960
I'm sorry for making
your life difficult.

832
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,960
I don't...

833
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,397
I don't take our
friendship to mean that...

834
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,877
I don't - I don't expect you
to print everything I write.

835
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,877
You're just doing
what you're doing.

836
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,877
Which is why you're the best.

837
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,877
Which is why I pay
you. Handsomely.

838
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,557
HE CHUCKLES

839
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,877
You're just as optimistic as me.

840
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,397
Christ, you thought the PCC
would come back on our side.

841
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,557
Even I didn't...

842
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,877
How a so-called industry regulator
could say that about us...

843
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Well, it's the death
of self-regulation.

844
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,878
Me? What do I do?

845
00:38:42,961 --> 00:38:44,877
Can't you call your Mr Apollo?

846
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,320
No, he's gone. Said he would.

847
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,877
He always contacted me, never
from the same line twice.

848
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,877
Well, wait for Max Clifford
and your day in court.

849
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,877
Max is important, but we can't
wait. We're in a firefight here.

850
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960
They're gonna keep slinging
mud till something sticks.

851
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,960
Then...

852
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,877
Oh, what about the
phone companies?

853
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,917
Sorry?

854
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,877
Yates made that claim
in the Select Committee

855
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,877
that they'd asked the companies
if there were any other victims

856
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,877
of Mulcaire and Goodman, in
order to take appropriate action.

857
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,877
Yeah, I remember. Well...

858
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,557
Ask the phone companies to disclose
how many victims they identified

859
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,877
and warned of being hacked.

860
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,960
You might get the
hacked numbers that way.

861
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,237
You're a genius, Sancho.

862
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,480
Never call me that again.

863
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,960
Go on. Click it.

864
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Just click it.

865
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,877
PEN CLICKS Got books.
She's not naked.

866
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,877
Those pens, you click, they're
naked, but she's covered in books.

867
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,877
It's a joke. Thanks for
explaining it to me.

868
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,877
I'll never use it.
I'll never ask you to.

869
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,877
Thank you.

870
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,877
The Commissioner called
after you left Yates.

871
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,877
He said to me that, erm,

872
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,877
your coverage of
the hacking scandal

873
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,877
was exaggerated and incorrect.

874
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,877
It's the first time I've
felt genuine confidence

875
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,237
that we're doing
absolutely the right thing.

876
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,877
NICK CHUCKLES SOFTLY

877
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,960
Adios.

878
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,877
The Select Committee had, of
course, rumbled on after us,

879
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,877
meeting press,
politicians, the police.

880
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,877
Trying to meet Rebekah
Brooks - she said no.

881
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,877
Though they succeeded in meeting
Andy Coulson, who said...

882
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,877
As little as possible.

883
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,877
But they were working
it as best they could.

884
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,557
And I was working with
them as best I could,

885
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,917
feeding them
occasional questions.

886
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,877
Which we asked in our own way.

887
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,917
Hadn't occurred to me that
the police revealing -

888
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,877
in a memo written by Yates -

889
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,877
that the mobile phone
companies had been contacted...

890
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,877
was a way in.

891
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,077
The police provided the
individual phone companies

892
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,877
details of the
telephone numbers.

893
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,877
And it was agreed that they
would individually research,

894
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,877
assess and address whether
or not, and to what degree,

895
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,640
their customers had been the
subject of contact by the suspects.

896
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,877
What I'm looking to find out is,
when the police contacted you,

897
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,877
what number of victims
you managed to trace

898
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,877
and how many you contacted.

899
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,917
MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY
Right, but... Yes.

900
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,877
But John Yates was quoted
in the Select Committee

901
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,877
as saying you were
spoken to, so...

902
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,237
MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY

903
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,877
My question is, did you ignore
the Assistant Commissioner

904
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960
of the Metropolitan Police?

905
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,077
Yeah, sure. Sure, I'll
hold. DAVID: Nick.

906
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,877
O2, 40 victims.

907
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,917
Now, it's only one.

908
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,077
It's only one. When
one goes, they all...

909
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,877
Yes, it is. Now, O2
have just confirmed

910
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,237
that once they were
alerted by the police,

911
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,877
they contacted 40
hacking victims.

912
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,877
I just wondered whether
you have a number for us.

913
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,917
Or have you more
to hide than them?

914
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,960
MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY
Great. Great. How many?

915
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,878
MAN: 'Broadly the same as O2.'

916
00:41:57,961 --> 00:42:00,877
You think you can do any better
than "Broadly the same as O2"?

917
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,557
Orange have come
back with 45 victims.

918
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,877
Do you want to match
that number instead?

919
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,237
MAN LAUGHING IN NEWSROOM

920
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,877
No? OK. Right, OK.

921
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Well, thank you very
much. Thank you, bye.

922
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,877
O2, 40 victims.

923
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,877
Vodafone, 40 victims,
Orange, 45 victims.

924
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,077
Together with the
original eight,

925
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,917
that's more than 130 people
who had their phones hacked.

926
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,557
Far more than Yates said.

927
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,960
And this is just the tip of
a very, very big iceberg.

928
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960
OK. Let's do it.

929
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,960
PRINTERS WHIRRING

930
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,917
'This wasn't just Goodman.

931
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,237
'This wasn't just the Royals.

932
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,960
'This was a practice.
This was our foothold.

933
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,960
'And yet...'

934
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,877
Even though News International
should have been on fire,

935
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,877
it, once again,
barely hit the sides.

936
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,877
DISTORTED WHIZZING

937
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,960
And no other newspaper thought
it was an important story either.

938
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,878
DAVE COOK: 'Good scoop.'

939
00:43:14,961 --> 00:43:17,877
The mobile phone
companies, very good.

940
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,237
Makes me happy to hear you
say words like "scoop".

941
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Why, is that not what you say?
You ever said "You're nicked"?

942
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,877
I think I tried that once or
twice when I was a younger man.

943
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,877
It doesn't matter.
No-one's reporting it.

944
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,397
Doesn't matter what it is,
we're just getting frozen out.

945
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,877
So try harder. What?

946
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,877
Try harder. Stop
pussyfooting around.

947
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,717
You think this is pussyfooting?

948
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,237
I put my paper on the
line, myself on the line.

949
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,877
But you're not nailing people.

950
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,878
You're not asking
the right questions.

951
00:43:42,961 --> 00:43:44,960
Oh, you're a journalist now?

952
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960
Why was your Neville
email not passed on?

953
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,557
Print the photo
on your front page

954
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,557
of Assistant Commissioner
John Yates and Rebekah Brooks

955
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,877
sitting together at the
Police Bravery Awards.

956
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,878
They sat together?

957
00:43:58,961 --> 00:44:00,877
Print what she
said in Parliament,

958
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,917
"We have paid the
police for information",

959
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,877
and say that doesnae even
go halfway to the truth.

960
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,877
There's a murky swamp
out there, Nick.

961
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,917
Top-tier police and the media.

962
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,877
And that needs reporting.

963
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,877
I'm trying to write
about all these things.

964
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,640
Unfortunately, it's
speculative and libellous.

965
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,960
You need evidence. So do I.

966
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,960
If you want to help, give
me something concrete.

967
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,960
All right. I've dug.

968
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,877
The case, the Neville
email, the hacking.

969
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,877
That case was given to
Specialist Operations.

970
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,237
Terrorist branch?

971
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,877
The boss at the time was
a guy called Andy Hayman.

972
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,877
I know that name.

973
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,877
Yeah, well, he disappeared.

974
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,877
Retirement in a puff of smoke.

975
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,878
And then reappeared...

976
00:44:43,961 --> 00:44:45,877
Er, yeah, writing
articles for The Times.

977
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,917
That's why I know
the name. Exactly.

978
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,557
The press goes through the
police like a stick of rock.

979
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,960
And News International,
they're the worst of the lot.

980
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,960
It's still speculative.

981
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Sorry, my friend. I need more.

982
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,960
Aye.

983
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960
PHONE RINGS

984
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,877
Charlotte. 'Hi.' Tell
me some good news.

985
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
'It's Max.'

986
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:01,237
Max.

987
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,877
Fucking hell, you brought him?

988
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,877
Max, we've got them on the rack.

989
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,877
You settle, the whole thing
gets covered up again.

990
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,877
You've got them on
the rack? With what?

991
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,877
What we need, I can't get.

992
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,877
Stand tall. Be the man
who made a difference.

993
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,877
"Be the man"! Do you
listen to yourself?

994
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,877
This isn't... Please,
listen to my advice here.

995
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,237
You just want your piece of it.

996
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,877
Oh, your backwoods deal?

997
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,877
Oh, I like to think
I'm better than that.

998
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,960
No-one is better
than money. How much?

999
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,877
Oh, go on! How much?

1000
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Fuck off.

1001
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,960
Oh, well. We tried.

1002
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,877
The Murdochs agreed to pay
Clifford more than £1 million.

1003
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,917
Some to cover his legal costs,

1004
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,877
most in the form of
guaranteed income

1005
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,877
for stories he would sell them
over the next three years.

1006
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:50,878
This meant it could be presented

1007
00:46:50,961 --> 00:46:53,557
as something other than
the payment of damages.

1008
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,237
This meant Charlotte
didn't get her cut.

1009
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,960
This meant it wasn't news.

1010
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Nobody was fooled,
but it was clever.

1011
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,960
Our biggest gun was spiked.

1012
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,878
TV: 'First election debate.

1013
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'Tonight, history in the
making, as we are joined by

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'the leader of the Liberal
Democrats, Nick Clegg,

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'the Conservative Party
leader, David Cameron,

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'and the leader of the
Labour Party, Gordon Brown.'

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AUDIENCE APPLAUDING

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NICK: 'The truth is, power
and secrecy walk hand in hand.

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'Power enjoys secrecy because
it increases its scope.

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'Power generates secrecy
simply because it can.

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'Downing Street, Scotland Yard,

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'they're no different to
other powerful organisations.

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'They find secrecy easy,

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'natural and extremely helpful,

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'regardless of whether or
not it may cheat the public

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'of information to which
they have a profound right.

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'But here's the thing
about power and secrecy.

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'If you can expose the secrecy,

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'you might... you
might, MIGHT...

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'..break the power.'

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